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Post by cddexter on Jul 13, 2015 18:22:27 GMT -5
youtu.be/8zVUOBhoC6U
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Post by midhilldexters on Jul 13, 2015 18:56:23 GMT -5
So nice to see your herd from a while back, thanks. Now they were some udders with nice teat placement front to back.
Carol K
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Post by cddexter on Jul 14, 2015 7:52:35 GMT -5
Thnaks, Carol. I was just lucky enough to have four things in my favor: When I started, I was given a copy of Herd Book 4 which covered a long period, Dan Randall's book came out which let me do pedigree research, I was able to recognize quality when I saw it, and I sleuthed some really good animals outside the clique of popular breeders. All I can lay claim to is protecting and perpetuating that quality to the best of my ability.
Compare Hiyu Rambler II (the bull in the video) to the Hiyu bulls currently available (i.e. Reiver, Benny, Warlord, Calum and Donal) and you can see the consistency. Madrigal II (the single cow with the big udder in the video) was about four days off calving, so her teats were a little out of plumb, but that's the overall shape, atachment and volume her calves would have inherited. Magician and Warlord were two who made it to AI.
The video best exemplifies my constant whine: breed for quality and consistency; and why I distinguish between a 'breeder' (someone who sees faults and works to correct them, who sees good traits and works to retain them) and an 'owner' (someone who simply produces a crop of calves and figures the paper trail is enough).
Soap box closed.
cheers, c.
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Post by jennyacres on Jul 14, 2015 7:53:28 GMT -5
She is a very nice specimen Carol. Plenty of body capacity with good legs to support it, and tremendous udder capacity with the attachments to support it (a nice shot of her rear attachment can be seen at about 1:41 in the video for the interested viewer). Did she produce all the milk you would expect with an udder like that? Thanks for sharing. Edit again: I'm fairly certain that is the same cow throughout the video, and she is quite lovely. Carol, perhaps you linked the wrong video? www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfxZfOmDtw8 looks to include more of the herd.
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Post by midhilldexters on Jul 14, 2015 11:52:04 GMT -5
Hayden is right there are two videos. Both fun to watch. Not sure if its the same bull in both?
Carol K
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Post by legendrockranch on Jul 14, 2015 12:07:44 GMT -5
Great videos from the past. This is probably the first time I've seen several of your animals at one time. Great job and some fine Dexters.
Barb
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Post by cddexter on Jul 14, 2015 18:18:30 GMT -5
there's actually three videos. They were done for the 98 agm. The bull, Rambler II, the cow Madrigal II, and the herd. The bull got beaten by a very bright red bull, and I will alwsys think that color had a lot to do with the decision. I didn't have much footage so I used a still which ran on too long. Madrigal got grand champion and the brown swiss guy used her as example of the best. The herd video won top prize as well. I particularly like the shot in the barn, showing the uniformity of the cows and the lovely udders with high rear suspension. I had none of those udders a previous poster now no longer on the site used to refer to as 'dual purpose': skinny bags with teats at the bottom and little milk.
Some people are happy with a paper pedigree, I want it all: the epectation of quality from the paper, and real quality on the hoof, capable of transmitting that quality to offspring, consistently. me.
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Post by Dahdo on Jul 14, 2015 19:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by carragheendexters on Jul 14, 2015 20:17:13 GMT -5
Thankyou Dave for doing that , I couldn't see the first one at all.
I haven't posted on here for so long (but I do read what everyone is up to ) but these videos prompted me to write. These are all beautiful dual purpose looking Dexters, looking as a Dexter should. Great udders with a correct dual purpose body conformation.
From what I can see, (looking at what photos others show as dual purpose) it is apparent that many don't know what a dual purpose animal should be structured like. On other sites I have asked specific questions as to what people think a dual purpose animal should look like. I have yet to get an answer. People give airy fairy answers, oh , good udder, muscle, good meat etc, but not the nitty grittys. When people ask this question of established Traditional breeders they are told to look at the photos to see what dual purpose is. So, my interpretation is that they just don't know what dual purpose structure is. When I question on type of bone, swing of the hoop, rib spacings, chine, leg length, depth of body, capacity, where the muscle is, type of muscle, udder structure, width and height of udder, etc not one single reply. So for those who don't know how dual purpose animals are structured, they should look at these animals, and then consider each part of the animal in relation to some of the things I listed above.
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Post by legendrockranch on Jul 14, 2015 22:14:12 GMT -5
Thank you Emily and Dave for getting all 3 videos posted. Of coarse to Carol for the guidance she has given us all.
Barb
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Post by cddexter on Jul 15, 2015 7:48:11 GMT -5
guidance? not sledgehammer?
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