Post by copperhead on Nov 29, 2007 20:59:24 GMT -5
I read the post about what age for heifers to breed, and I want to know what age most of you start using a bull. I need to replace my bull and am looking at a calf who will be a year old in Jan and I wonder if thats old enough to breed my cows. I would only have one or two young ones to breed in January, and the rest would start calving in march and on into June. He would have around 12 cows to breed by then, is that too big a load for a young bull? Also, one of my cows is a big girl, wonder if he could reach her.......... ;D Thanks, P.J.
When thinking of my first year with Dexters I had two bulls. One was about 4 months older than the oterh but got into some grain and overloaded and died before he got anyone bred. I think he was like 8 months old at the time. I would have to check the records to be sure.
His half brother, who was born March 10th if I remember right, bred a cow before he was 9 months old. It was my largest Dexter cow. He did what can best be described as a jumping mount. But she settled and we went on from there.. He proceeded to breed 2 more in the next 2 weeks (the rest took to AI) with zero troubles. I have used a yearling bull in the Angus herd on 20 animals but that, according to the experts is a big push and you should be more about 15).. With the bull being close to 18 months to breed cows that are calving in March I really see no problem. Just keep an eye on him, small breeding pastures so he doesn't have to chase and he should hold condition fine. With only one bull he would be dumb and be fighting all day.
Bulls sell slower than heifers and cows, so sometimes they stay around the farm a little longer than you'd like. I don't have facilities to separate the bulls from the cows, so when the little bulls start to mature, they have to go.
I've managed to find my bull calves a place to go where they will be welcome and can stay until they sell. I've been sending them as soon as they turn seven months old. Once there, they can breed the other herd as soon as they're capable. Most can breed them all within 2 months. I've never had a bull stay there until it was a pear old, but the cows are always bred by then.
There are a lot of little 1/2 Dexter calves around here. The other halves are Angus, Jersey, Hereford, Charolais, Devon and Highland. The little bulls always performed. Size didn't stop them.
Thanks for the answers guys, it helped in two ways. One I need to get my young bulls out of the main pasture, and two, I'll head down to my buddys place and get my hands on a good "young" replacement bull. I appreciate all the help........... P.J.
Post by shamrockhill on Jan 9, 2008 22:59:00 GMT -5
Here's one for the record books.
I was talking to the lady who breed my beautiful Red Bull and she told me that prior to my bull coming to live with me, he had been sent off to a property for natural service. He had three girls lined up for his affections but he was too late.
A five (5) month old bull calf that was on the property, managed to serve his mother and sisters with 3 live calves produced.
Whilst I think that was probably a rare incident, it makes you think twice about late weaning.