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Post by onthebit on Dec 5, 2010 12:45:52 GMT -5
my goodness, charlotte, what a bitter response. Is this you speaking, or are you fronting for someone else? If you and everyone else reading this, and Liz's article, are bone fide degreed scientists, and understand the difference between common parlance and specialized terms, I apologise. However, in layman's terms, this is not considered a dilute gene. My comments stand. Mention 'dilute' color genes and you will be assumed to be speaking of a dominant gene. Mention brown, and you will either get questions, or the knowledge it's recessive. Sheila reviewed the paper presented to the 2002 Congress which dealt with Dexter 'brown', and found no fault with it. I can only bow to her superior knowledge. C. I really don't think I was 'bitter' at all....you were WRONG period. If you can't apologize and you want to make the excuse that most people are too stupid to understand the word dilution in this case then I feel very sorry for you. We have become well aware now of your expertise (or lack of) |
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Post by littlecowfl on Jan 25, 2011 20:40:58 GMT -5
Sharing the knowledge is best for the breed in the long run, right? It's up to us newbies to absorb it all and work towards keeping the Dexter on track and true to it's heritage.  I love my duns. I hope to have some more red in my herd, but I do love my duns. Please continue? |
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Post by cddexter on Feb 12, 2012 19:00:59 GMT -5
For anyone who's made it this far, thought I should add the information from Sheila Schmutz's site.
"Brown
Some authors refer to brown as a dilute color. Somehow this bothers me. I don't think of brown as diluted black, which to me is gray or in dog terms "blue". Brown is created by a modification of eumelanin, so in some sense I suppose I can understand why it is sometimes lumped with the diluter gene effects."
;D c.
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Post by rhonda on Feb 13, 2012 18:33:57 GMT -5
I had 2 calves from Selby that were almost as dark "brown" as he is..I love the color and hope for a nice heifer that dark. I like the uniqueness of the dun Dexters. Rhonda
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 13, 2012 23:03:55 GMT -5
If you like dark dun, then check out Wakarusa RLA Rosita (photo taken at 5 months old):  Here is a link to her ADCA Online Pedigree: www.dextercattle.org/pedigreedb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=026494&I=3850&P=7664246748415946724F7A562A75She's tested as PHA-free, Chondro-free, and she will be genotyped and A2 Beta Casein tested next month. Her sire and dam genotypes are already on file with the ADCA, so she'll be sire and dam qualified. Rosita will be advertised for sale in April 2012, after we finish all of her testing. She is a very sweet, dark dun heifer that was born on June 22, 2011. Patti |
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Post by rhonda on Feb 14, 2012 5:33:49 GMT -5
Patti, she is really pretty. Just send her on over to Missouri! Rhonda
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Post by ctownson on Feb 14, 2012 6:21:24 GMT -5
She is a beauty - love that color! All our duns are lighter in color.
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 14, 2012 7:51:06 GMT -5
Here's another one of RDC-Rainbow Lucky Ace's daughters, Wakarusa RLA Fava (photo taken at 6 months old):  Fava is in Missouri! Hope that you get a chance to see her face to face. She is a sweetheart! Patti |
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Post by aggieelissa on Feb 14, 2012 11:17:13 GMT -5
I really like Fava Patti! That is a really nice female!
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 14, 2012 11:54:50 GMT -5
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Post by rhonda on Feb 14, 2012 17:42:49 GMT -5
2 very nice heifers.. and yes it looks like Fava has a forever home. I haven't met them yet..maybe at the spring MDBA meeting. Rhonda
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 16, 2012 9:56:06 GMT -5
We did collect RDC-Rainbow Lucky Ace for use as a Dexter AI bull, and his semen is available. He is genetically horned (he was dehorned when he was a calf), black (ED/ED) and carries dun (B/b), he does not carry red. He is homozygous for A2 Beta Casein (A2/A2), PHA-noncarrier, Chondro-noncarrier. At 5-years old, he was 44-inches hip height and 1,060 lb, his heart girth measured 72-inches. Great disposition, and vigorous, well built, small calves. Thus far, all of his dun calves have been that beautiful richly colored dark dun, like Fava and Rosita.
Patti
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Post by lakeportfarms on Feb 16, 2012 12:37:24 GMT -5
I'm not going to show her to my wife...she has a thing about collecting all the different colors and shades of colors! We have Highlands too and when she found out there were 7 colors that was that and we were off in one instance from Michigan to CT to get one. That is a really pretty color though, our cows are all a lighter dun as well.
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