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Post by liz on Mar 25, 2010 16:42:35 GMT -5
Hi there, Genomex, has been accepting international submissions for a few months now. www.genomnz.co.nz/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspxIt takes about 6 weeks after they are mailed from Canada to get the results by email and then they send a hard copy, if requested. If you go to the contacts link and email, they will send you all of the paperwork, import permit, lab paperwork and are very helpful. Cost is $20NZ (about $15.40 CDN) per sample and postage of course. I don't know if this is the lab you are talking about Genebo but I found the link on the Family Cow Board about 2 months ago, when someone was reporting their results. Hope this helps, Liz
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Post by allmuxedup on Mar 26, 2010 12:07:18 GMT -5
Thanks to the diligent work of Judy Sponaugle and a small group of supporters, the A2 Corporation has agreed to allow testing of privately owned milk cattle for the presence of A2 beta casein genetics. Way to go Judy!!! Thanks to all!!!
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Post by onthebit on Mar 26, 2010 15:21:19 GMT -5
Yes Liz and GenoNZ is quick, cheap and easy compared to people who have so called 'accounts' who need 5-10 samples per submission, which were publicized over 5 months ago on various 'other' cow boards..
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Post by allmuxedup on Apr 12, 2010 10:00:05 GMT -5
So, who's done it & what were your results? Are our little cows predominantly A2?
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Post by Star Creek Dexters on Sept 19, 2010 7:25:21 GMT -5
I am trying to find out how this test is done. I want to test my who;e herd, and I cannot find if it is through tail hairs or blood...Gene, anyone? What form where the test samples in?
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Post by kansasdexters on Sept 19, 2010 9:05:01 GMT -5
Kimberly, We just got results back for 12 of our Dexters. The test is done using tail hairs, and they ask for a 20 to 40 hair sample. The test costs $25 per sample and it takes about a week to get the results. Here is the link (if you want to test directly with the VGL lab at UC-Davis and not go through any third party): www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/cattle.phpThe test results are reported directly to the sample submitter and they belong to the sample submitter. You can prepay for each test ordered using a credit card, then print out the individual test forms that they send you by email immediately after you pay. The test forms you receive by email are completely filled out and marked "prepaid". Make sure that you check the box that specifies you want the results emailed to you and also mailed to you. After you print out the individual forms, you then tape the tail hair sample directly onto the bottom of the printed form (as indicated on the form), fold the form to cover the hair sample and so that the UPC code is on the outside of the fold (for scanning) and place the form into a legal size envelope. Do each sample this way, then put all of the samples together along with a printed copy of the order summary into a large mailing envelope and mail this to the address provided on the form. I sent our samples by regular U.S. mail and they arrived at the lab in 3 days. The lab will send you a confirmation email when they receive the samples. The test results come in a separate email, a few days later. Hope this helps. Patti
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Post by Star Creek Dexters on Sept 19, 2010 9:08:25 GMT -5
Thanks so much, Patti! This is exactly what I needed to know.
How did your's come back? Care to share the results? =)
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Post by kansasdexters on Sept 19, 2010 18:19:53 GMT -5
Hi Kimberly, Here are the A2 Beta Casein test results that we just got back from UC-Davis: Wakarusa BRR Lucy, ADCA No. 018637: A2/A2 Gracious Muirstead, ADCA No. 016041: A2/A2 Rock N' Oaks Megan, ADCA No. 14482: A2/A2 SJ Roxie, ADCA No. 9517: A2/A2 River Bend Fancy, ADCA No. 11147: A2/A2 Our current herdsire: RDC-Rainbow Lucky Ace, ADCA No. 017836: A2/A2 O'Bannon's Brogan, ADCA No. 016268: A1/A1 Oleo Nickel, ADCA No. 14017: A1/A1 Wakarusa LOCH Nessa, ADCA No. 20750: A1/A2 Wakarusa Nutmeg Cluny, ADCA No. 17378: A1/A2 Fina Muirstead, ADCA No. 16040: A1/A2 Oleo Mistletoe, ADCA No. 14015: A1/A2 We had previously tested three Dexter cows for A1 & A2 Beta Casein (at another lab) and their results were: Bohls Diamond, ADCA No. 14288: A2/A2 Hillside Mornin Glory, ADCA No. 11993: A1/A2 Rainbow Hills Holiday, ADCA No. 10409: A1/A2 Patti Adams www.kansasdexters.com
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Post by Star Creek Dexters on Sept 19, 2010 21:17:41 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing. That's a great average! I am really looking forward to seeing what my little herd is going to work out as. I will let ya'll know when I get the results back. We'll be pulling test hairs tomorrow.
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Post by liz on Sept 23, 2010 18:54:43 GMT -5
Well I submitted 3 of my samples for the A2 gene testing to UC Davis and they received them on Monday and gave me the results today! That is incredibly fast to me! Genomnz took about 3 weeks for me to recieve the results after they received my samples. UC davis are more expensive than GenomNZ which works out to about $19.00 with the import fee if submitting enough samples to amortize it, but with only four it would be the same price. They were courteous, helpful and a really good experience! Patty gave the ulr and you just follow the links! Liz
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Post by Star Creek Dexters on Oct 30, 2010 7:41:45 GMT -5
I got my results back. 3 A1/A2, 2 A1/A1. I was pretty bummed about it, but a friend sent this article to me, and it has me really thinking now. I need to take the time to really research all of this some more. Wondering what y'alls thought are? antiquityoaks.blogspot.com/2010/10/patently-insane.html
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Post by Star Creek Dexters on Oct 30, 2010 8:13:48 GMT -5
This is the quote off of UC Davis
"The UC Davis Veterinary Genetics Laboratory is approved by A2 Corporation Limited as an A2 Certified Tester. A2 Corporation Limited owns a suite of intellectual property rights (including patent rights, trademarks, and technical and commercial know how) relating to testing, breeding and herd formation of animals used to produce A2 MILK®, or milk free of beta casein A1, and the subsequent production and sale of such milk. Any person who intends to form a herd of animals used to produce A2 MILK®, or milk free of beta casein A1, and/or produces and/or sells such milk, may be infringing A2 Corporation Limited's intellectual property rights. Please contact A2 Milk Company LLC (A2 Corporation Limited's exclusive North American Licensee) with any further queries. A2 Corporation Limited may access and use information from the UC Davis Veterinary Genetics Laboratory relating to the A2 testing carried out by the UC Davis Veterinary Genetics Laboratory and may communicate with the person seeking testing or the owner of the animal to be tested."
This worries me, because our plans are to grow to about 30-40 cows and to sell family milk cows, but also to offer milk shares and later certify for raw milk dairy.
I read the post by Genebo on homesteading today board, and it didn't do a whole lot to ease my uncertanty about this whole thing.
At this point, we don't have anything to worry about, since we do not have any A2/A2 animals, but in the future, it makes me rethink the way we will set things up here, and whether we will even test our animals, unless requested.
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Post by onthebit on Oct 31, 2010 11:07:49 GMT -5
This is the quote off of UC Davis "The UC Davis Veterinary Genetics Laboratory is approved by A2 Corporation Limited as an A2 Certified Tester. A2 Corporation Limited owns a suite of intellectual property rights (including patent rights, trademarks, and technical and commercial know how) relating to testing, breeding and herd formation of animals used to produce A2 MILK®, or milk free of beta casein A1, and the subsequent production and sale of such milk. Any person who intends to form a herd of animals used to produce A2 MILK®, or milk free of beta casein A1, and/or produces and/or sells such milk, may be infringing A2 Corporation Limited's intellectual property rights. Please contact A2 Milk Company LLC (A2 Corporation Limited's exclusive North American Licensee) with any further queries. A2 Corporation Limited may access and use information from the UC Davis Veterinary Genetics Laboratory relating to the A2 testing carried out by the UC Davis Veterinary Genetics Laboratory and may communicate with the person seeking testing or the owner of the animal to be tested." This worries me, because our plans are to grow to about 30-40 cows and to sell family milk cows, but also to offer milk shares and later certify for raw milk dairy. I read the post by Genebo on homesteading today board, and it didn't do a whole lot to ease my uncertanty about this whole thing. At this point, we don't have anything to worry about, since we do not have any A2/A2 animals, but in the future, it makes me rethink the way we will set things up here, and whether we will even test our animals, unless requested. Sell your A2 cows to your daughter and then because she didn't do the test you should be able to go ahead and sell your A2 milk .
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Post by marion on Oct 31, 2010 12:17:57 GMT -5
The way it read to me, is that the wording pertains to those forming a herd of cows to produce/sell/promote A2 MILK. I do not read anything there that indicates there are any restrictions on using the A2 test to select BREEDING STOCK..marion
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Post by jamshundred on Oct 31, 2010 12:55:36 GMT -5
A2 Corporation has a couple of decades invested in the research behind the patent for "A2" milk and it is my understanding they intend to protect their property rights.
A2 Corporation has agents in the US at this time and in the future one might expect they will be licensing dairy farmers much as they do in Australia and New Zealand.
( As a side note - - A2 could prove to be either the worse thing that ever happened to US dairy farms or maybe the best if they have A2 cattle or breed for A2 cattle and link with A2 Corp. Goodness knows I hear milk producers constantly complaining about the low prices they get for milk under current programs here).
Gene, A2 Corporation receives a copy of the EXACT report you do on any animal tested for A2. ALL the information on that form is transferred by license agreement and requirement. They DO know the name of the cow and the name of the owner so they would be aware of numerous animals listed to one owner.
Starcreek. If you want A2 milk you could begin by finding an A2/A2 bull to put over your cows. Even the A1/A1 cows would then produce A1/A2 babies. You can breed your way to A2.
My grandson LOVED the milk from my A2 cow and he knew nothing about the difference in the milk. He was drinking it and took me by surprise that he commented on how good it was when he asked for seconds. Normally I buy Horizon milk because the g-kids don't like the other national organic brand that is sold in the stores here.
I know I personally only want my grandkids drinking A2 milk and I DO believe that A2 will have a tremendous effect on milk production in the US once consumers are alerted and aware to the health risks linked to A1 milk.
Judy
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