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Post by jamboru on Apr 8, 2014 23:53:30 GMT -5
A rose by any other name.................. F
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Post by outofthebox on Apr 9, 2014 0:54:26 GMT -5
Yes Jamboru it is. A rose who is in full bloom from the (constant) attention and interest
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Post by carragheendexters on Apr 9, 2014 4:25:31 GMT -5
Hi Donna,
this is the 2nd time you have attacked me on this public forum. This is not the place for you be to airing your grievances, you could have sent me a private message, emailed me or even phoned me if you wanted to say something. I feel that writing here in such a disrespectful way is inappropriate behaviour for a public forum.
I debated whether to reply here or not, and Olga can delete my post if she feels it is inappropriate. I will check with her and let her know I have put this post here.
I will reply to all of your questions openly and honestly.
1. I do not know why you feel that I am "seeking" you out. I am on this forum, you are on this forum, we both post. We are certain to reply to each other's posts at different times, how does that constitute "seeking you out"? perhaps you think that I am only replying to your posts? Perhaps you don't read my other posts to other people?
2. No , you didn't sign your name to the end of any of your posts. Each of us have a very distinctive style to the way we reply on here, some more so than others. Your method and style is very distinctive, and different to every one else, as is mine. My way of expressing myself is also very distinctive, because of the way my brain functions. It was very obvious, or at least to me it was, that you were writing under a new username. I find it just good manners and respectful to address a person at the beginning of a post and likewise to sign a post. This is common courtesy. I did not realise that you didn't want people to know your name. If there was some reason that you wanted to remain anonymous, then you could have easily sent a PM and asked me not to use your name.
3. Why would you even bring up anything about the DCAI AGM from back in October up here now. If you had a problem with how I behaved at the AGM then why have you waited till now to mention it. You could have easily emailed me or phoned me and addressed your concerns back then.
Why did I look uncomfortable when looking your way? I will tell you why. I am somewhat Aspbergers, and one of my behaviours is that I have a real problem making eye contact with people. I have tried very hard through my life with professional help to improve on this, (plus also other behaviours that I have problems with) and I am now somewhat comfortable to be able to maintain some eye contact with people that I know quite well. Even with my own husband I cannot maintain eye contact for what most people consider normal. I don't know you, so for me that is my normal behaviour, no eye contact.
4.I was unaware that you had attempted to approach me at the AGM. I find that a little hard to believe. I had only met you once previously and spoken a little at our Promotion Groups Xmas get together the previous year that you had come to. When it was pointed out to me who you were by someone else, I made a point of going up to you, introducing myself, and chatting. You were somewhat aggressive and argumentative that day, and I felt that you really were not getting any joy speaking with me. To be honest, at the AGM, I didn't even recognise you. It was only when I asked someone else who you were that I knew you were at the AGM.
I apologise if you felt that I was trying to avoid you, that was not my intention. That was a rather hectic day, my friend getting lost and coming late, phone calls trying to direct her to the meeting, trying to organise all the gifts for the councillors that our group were presenting to them. Lunch break was hectic, catching up with old aquaintances and friends that I hadn't seen or spoken to for ages, trying to get some food to eat before it was all gone. If I looked like I was moving abruptly, to yourself and these "other" people, then you were probably right, I was buzzing all over the place. Other people who know me would not find this unusual for me, I am a high energy, rush around person.
5. Why do I engage in conversations here on the forum? Because this is the only time I actually get to sit down and relax. This is the way I take time out. Whenever there is daylight I am outside working. After dark once my dogs are fed and put to bed I have some free time. I don't watch TV at night. TV is just not "my thing". Instead I spend a little time on here and other forums and groups that I am on, do a bit of study, read a book, I'm into vampire books at the moment if you would like to know that. Sooky Stackhouse adventures, they are great.
I question and challenge everything. That is me. Especially if it seems a bit "hinky". That is my new "American" word that I learnt this week. If I feel someone/anyone, writes something that is incorrect I will question it. If you feel it is only directed to you, then you mustn't have read too many other posts of mine
I really dislike misinformation which I know to be incorrect to be broadcast on a public forum. New people and inexperienced people take away this information, and spread it amongst other new and inexperience people. This is how myths and legends are generated, and there are enough of those out there about Dexters (and other things) without adding more.
6. Neither you nor anything you have "swirls a need" in me. I am truly way too busy with my own life to really have that much interest in you or yours. I have always questioned and challenged everything my whole life. I am one of those students, the kind lecturers hate. Most people want to know something, or how something works, but for me I HAVE TO KNOW. This is part of the way some Aspies brains fire. Don't feel privileged that you think I single you out.
7. Ah, you must have read my story in the bulletin. By all means I would love to call in some day, but I am guessing you are not on my driven path. I don't know exactly where you live, but someone who knows you once told me when THEY were talking about you that it was out the back of Tarago. Hardly calling in, when I drive up the Hume, but by all means, if you let me know where you live I will go out of my way and call in one day for a chat.
So now I have answered all of your questions to the best of my ability. It has ended up quite a chapter.
You really didn't have to write in such a rude and disrespectful way on a public forum, for me to answer your questions. You could have contacted me privately in any of the different ways.
regards Louise
PS. I apologise to all of the other members on this board for the previous posts. It is inappropriate for you to be subjected to personal conversations that should be taken private.
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Post by ssrdex on Apr 9, 2014 11:27:07 GMT -5
Back to the discussion of shelters... And the pros and cons. One of the biggest problems most "farmers" have is that they devalue their time. I personally know many folks who own livestock who "think" they are profitable when in reality they put little to no value on their time. I make my living farming so both health and efficiency are important to me. Our guineas keep the ticks down, the dung beetles solve the problem of manure when properly deposited, intensive rotational grazing eliminates the needs for dragging pastures that I hear some people spend time doing, and spending time, energy, and money on bedding would not be a wise contribution to my business plan. In short (for me - we all live in different places and have different priorities) run ins in no way add to the health or welfare of my livestock but does add labor and maintenance. I must prioritize my time the most efficient way possible for maximum health, growth, profitability and sustainability. This is my biggest problem. I guess it does come from not being a "farmer", and this forum had proven to be a very useful learning tool. Trial & error are my 2 middle names. This has been a discussion that will help me in the future.
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Post by lakeportfarms on Apr 9, 2014 12:33:20 GMT -5
Different conditions make for different adjustments in how you manage your Dexters and other animals. I was posting some of these photos to show how hardy they are in the harsh winters some of us have with just windbreaks, sometimes just from natural means like a brush pile or in a dip in the pasture. The photo of the Highland could have just as easily been our Dexter bull. Though we can only do managed grazing a few months of the year, as Sheri has said it is the single most beneficial thing you can do for the health and well being of your herd unless you have vast tracts of land available.
Our biggest problem is in the spring season when we have them in sacrifice areas that get muddy and where they are confined to a smaller area. We have to use a lot of straw to give them good bedding during that time, and I just dump round bales in the sacrifice areas. They eat some of it, and they sleep in what they don't. Usually in mid/late May they get on the pasture rotation, and the safe outdoor planting date for our area is June 1 so the sacrifice area gets tilled and becomes our garden for the summer. This year I'll have a few more spots in the pasture that will have to be renovated, since we had to take some further steps with both windbreaks and bedding with the -30 or more temperatures we sometimes had.
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Post by cddexter on Apr 9, 2014 16:28:48 GMT -5
A rose who is in full bloom from the (constant) attention and interest
Donna: Sounds pretty sick to me. Is it the attention that drives you?
I'd say, if awarding points for attacks and put-downs, you've got the upper hand. Maybe you need to read your own avatar quote.
It took me about 3 minutes to figure out who you were, even with a new ID. Your style is unmistakable.
That's not a compliment. Cheers, c.
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Post by outofthebox on Apr 9, 2014 16:38:41 GMT -5
Redridge and Lakeportfarms I do see where you are coming from, and it does make sense.
We dont have much in wind breaks and shelter even though we are about 40% tree 'd. Quite a few bunches of various gum trees which dont provide alot of shelter: either shade or from frost / rain as they are not dense enough.
To help indicate how sparse our naturally sheltered areas are, trees we planted, deciduous and evergreen aren’t there yet and will take a few more years to provide what we (well the cows) need. And we have another 600 to go in around the place (still in pots) and we don’t think that will still be enough.
I was wondering if our Dexters do use their ‘shelters’ / run ins so regularly because we are (currently) lacking in dense enough shelter from trees and shrubs?
And our run ins are not confining as would be a barn or a run in with a yard around it as they are only three sides and a roof, longer than they are wide to keep them open and spacious?
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Post by outofthebox on Apr 9, 2014 17:19:26 GMT -5
2. No , you didn't sign your name to the end of any of your posts. If there was some reason that you wanted to remain anonymous, then you could have easily sent a PM and asked me not to use your name. Ditto: you could have PMed me and asked Edited for inclusion: I really dislike misinformation which I know to be incorrect to be broadcast on a public forum. So I wasn’t too far wrong then, that you …………….. questioning and / or challenging the authentication of even my observations and experiences?You look back on your replies to my posts…………..I would guessimate about 95% of the time you have.
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If you always do what you always did, You will always get what you always got.....Albert Einstein.
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Post by outofthebox on Apr 9, 2014 17:20:53 GMT -5
It took me about 3 minutes to figure out who you were, even with a new ID. Your style is unmistakable. Well arent we the clever one Edited to include: And thank you for commenting about having a 'style' within my writings. It helps to explain why I have rarely been out of work over the last 18 yrs as a contracted senior analyst for the federal government
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Post by cddexter on Apr 9, 2014 18:10:36 GMT -5
no need to add fuel to the fire.
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Post by dexterlady on Apr 9, 2014 22:46:40 GMT -5
Why don't you guys take your disagreements somewhere else...I too agree, this is NOT the place for this kind of conversations....This is suppose to be about Dexters and related topics, not personal grievances.....Just may 2 cents....Thank you...Donna Jenkins
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Post by carragheendexters on Apr 10, 2014 5:05:14 GMT -5
Hi Everyone,
I would like to apologise to you all on this forum for my participation in that conversation. It was disrespectful to you all, and rather ill-mannered of me. I can assure you I will not do it again. Please accept my apologies.
In regards to my other post, it was not to you Dexterlady Donna.
regards Louise
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Post by carragheendexters on Apr 10, 2014 5:06:57 GMT -5
Hi Donna (outofthebox),
I abjure you. You will not hear from me again.
regards (for the last time) Louise
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Post by Fran on Apr 10, 2014 6:50:28 GMT -5
Two of my pastures that are mostly utilized by my Dexters do not have any trees in them. Well, the front one has a small pear tree in it, but that doesn't provide very much shade and definitely no wind break. We are building a 12x24 3-sided run-in shelter in that pasture in the next month or so. The middle pasture has no trees but does have the "cow barn" in it. The "cow barn" is a 24x60 shed-row type barn with a run-in on the front of it. It has 5 stalls: 1 is kept open for use as needed, 2 are used for feed/hay storage, and 2 are used for chickens. Our Dexters use it ALL the time. They LOVE it. The back pasture has trees and a couple of areas that are quite shady, so we do not plan to build anything in that pasture at this time.
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Post by windswepthill on Apr 15, 2014 11:15:11 GMT -5
The snow falls here in the Western Catskills of NY.
In fact it is supposed to be falling later this afternoon 4/15/14 as the temperature drops into the 20's.
When I built the run in barn I used rough cut hemlock and a plywood roof covered with metal.
The bottom two feet of the wall is lined with parallel 2x10's.
Termites are one thing the we don't have. The winter cold is too much for them.
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