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Post by emsshamrock on Jun 29, 2017 20:15:18 GMT -5
If you wanted to be able to find a list of Dexter jargon all in one place, what words/phrases would you like to find there?
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Post by Cascade Meadows Farm - Kirk on Oct 2, 2017 15:33:06 GMT -5
I'd like to find no jargon....Just plain English with widely understood definitions that everybody already understands... So no special Dexter jargon needed.
For example.
Short Legs simply means the animal or person has short legs.
Long legs simply means the animal or person has long legs
Traditional = the animal meets the early, traditional breed standard.
Chondrodysplastic Dexter = the animal is infected with a cartilage defect called Chondrodysplasia.
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Post by otf on Oct 2, 2017 17:28:06 GMT -5
Emily, I think you're on the right track! Dexters have become a complex breed, and by that I think that owners should understand all the testing required (and what it means and how it applies to breeding decisions).
"Animal or person?" Kirk, WTH are you talking about? If people are interested in Dexters, then I believe they should learn and understand the vocabulary that is associated with the breed.
Short and long are vague terms (like "proportional," which got more than a few people in trouble years ago). "Short" indicates positive for chondrodysplasia and "long" indicates negative for chondrodysplasia. I believe that people new to the breed should learn and understand the meaning of these terms, don't you? I think your definition of "traditional" should be more specific. Maybe Judy can help you with that one.
Gale (otf)
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Post by Cascade Meadows Farm - Kirk on Oct 3, 2017 16:14:24 GMT -5
Everybody in the world knows what legs are.
Everybody knows what short means.
Everybody knows what long means.
People (and animals) have legs.
People (and animals) can have legs that are shorter than average.
People (and animals) can have legs that are longer than average.
A bunch of old-time Dexter breeders, with little science education and little genetics knowledge had to muddle-through a long period where they had to guess what was going on with their Dexters. They invented some screwed-up jargon to try to help them talk about what they were dealing with... The jargon sorta worked perhaps 60% of the time, but failed miserably much of the time.
Those old-timers really screwed-up by using the term "Long-Legged" to mean that a Dexter likely didn't have the dwarfism-defect gene. Lots of cattle with short legs are free of dwarfism-defects.
There is absolutely no excuse in 2017, for anyone to hang onto those old misleading Jargon terms, that were often wrong.
Today we have a great understanding of genetics and we can speak common language that everyone understands without any special Dexter jargon needed. Every breed of cattle has some indivuals with longer legs and some with shorter legs. Every breed of cattle has some individuals with dwarfism-defects. Many breeds of cattle have some individuals with chondrodysplasia...A genetic disease of the cartilage and bone.
Some people want to keep the sweet old outdated jargon alive because the actual term "Dysplasia" is as nasty as it sounds (it means deformity).
PS. I agree that a glossary of common terms would be useful, but those terms should have common, broad definitions that would apply across all breeds. Special Jargon for Dexter's isn't needed.
That "long-leg" "short-leg" special Dexter jargon appears to have been invented in the 1960's through 1990's... None of it was mentioned in any of the old original Dexter breed descriptions/standards.
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