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Post by copperhead on Sept 4, 2009 8:58:39 GMT -5
Any of you who sell beef to the public, can you give me a round figure on how you price it ?? I have one that is going to the butcher in two weeks, and a couple more that will be ready later in the year. I have priced the first one at $225.00 hanging weight and the buyer pays the processing fee, which will make the total come out at around $3.00 a lb to the buyer, for the "hanging " weight of the steer. Is that a fair price? I don't want to gouge anyone. For that price I will take the steer to the butcher shop for them. The processing fee is 32.00 to kill and 60cents a lb for hanging weight.
P.J.
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Post by kansasdexters on Sept 4, 2009 22:42:37 GMT -5
Hi P.J. We sell our whole Dexter steers for $3.75/lb hanging weight, and our sides and split sides for $4.25/lb hanging weight, plus Osage County sales tax (6.3%). We take the custom orders directly from our customers and we pay for the processing ($40 kill fee, $30 disposal fee, $0.60/lb for custom cutting and wrapping in clear plastic, $20/animal for weighing each cut and putting the weights on the labels). Our steers typically have hanging weights between 400 to 500 pounds. We charge extra for pre-made hamburger patties (adds $0.50/lb), beef bacon (adds $0.75/lb), summer sausage ( adds $2.25/lb), and beef jerky (adds $3.75/lb). These are all direct additional costs to us that we pass on to the customer. We pick up, inspect, and deliver the meat to our customers at no extra charge. Our custom processor is located 8 miles from our place and almost all of our customers are within 25 miles of our place. All of our meat is state inspected during slaughter and processing and it carries the state inspection number on all the individual packages. We also have a retailer's certificate from the State of Kansas and we submit our sales tax receipts quarterly. To meet the demand for our Dexter beef, we currently process 2 to 3 steers per month between the months of June and November. Let me know if you'd like to see our price list for retail cuts. I'd be glad to email it to you. Best wishes, Patti Adams WAKARUSA RIDGE RANCH www.kansasdexters.com |
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Post by copperhead on Sept 5, 2009 10:34:59 GMT -5
Great, thanks Patti, I haven't gotten much responce to an ad on Craigs list, I might try a local ad, too. I think I"ll try it like you are, just selling the hanging weight and not try to add in the processing fees too. I think that may confuse some people causing them to think the price is too high. I hate to take these steers to the sale, because they won't bring what they should. I don't think I want to try selling retail cuts, that sounds too much like a business,  Thanks again, you are great to always answer questions for us..................P.J. |
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Post by kansasdexters on Sept 5, 2009 10:50:55 GMT -5
Hi P.J.
Our $3.75/lb hanging weight for whole steers (and $4.25/lb hanging weight for sides and split sides) does include all the processing fees. Sales tax is extra and it does need to be collected from the "end user", the retail consumer.
We don't pay sales tax on the processing because we have a retailer's certificate and we sell our beef wholesale and retail. But that means we must collect the sales tax on all our retail sales and our wholesale customers must collect it on all their retail sales.
Don't get yourself in trouble with the State Revenue department by selling beef and not collecting sales tax from your customers on your sales and paying the State Revenue department what they are due.
Even the beef that we consume in our own household, we pay sales tax on, because we are the end user in that case. That's how it works if you want to conduct your beef business legally.
Take care,
Patti
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Post by copperhead on Sept 5, 2009 17:54:46 GMT -5
I know it's a neich matket and hard to get into, I did get three halves sold to day, so that leaves one half for me. I changed the price to $3.00 a pound and I'll deliver and pick up the meat, and pay the processor. That leaves me one calf to sell next spring, so thats a good thing.
P.J.
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Post by thegoodag on Jan 9, 2010 8:13:10 GMT -5
Saw this ad on local (Houston) Craig's List. I'm new to the Dexters, but have about 3-4 friends/family that have let me know they are interested in getting some beef when I start to have some so this discussion has been very helpful for me to determine a fair price for all. Thanks,
Brian
All Natural Grass Fed Angus/Limousin Beef - $3 (Houston and surrounding areas)
Date: 2010-01-08, 4:20PM CST
Steriod and Antibotic free grass fed beef. Calves avg. 580 to 775 lbs delivered to processor and cut the way you want it. Prices are based on hanging weight and includes processing: $3.39 for a half calf (175-225 lbs) or $3.19/lb for whole calf (350-425 lbs). We have four processors available (Spring, North Houston, Anderson, and Navasota, TX) of which two are USDA INSPECTED facilities. We can deliver to your home for $75 extra from the processor. If you are interested give us a call or come out and see the farm. 832-493-2790
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Post by copperhead on Jan 11, 2010 14:24:48 GMT -5
The way I wound up doing mine was that I take the animal to the butcher shop for the buyer, and check the animal in under the buyers name, the buyer calls the butcher and fill out the processing sheet. About a week later I call the butcher and find out how much the hanging weight was and tell the buyer how much he owes me for the animal. I pay the processing and kill fee. It seems to be much eaiser for the buyer when they only have to pay a flat rate to me instead of figuring out how much they owe me, and the butcher. I'm having a reverse problem now, I have three people wanting a beef and I only have one, that isn't ready yet anyway. I think I'll try to find some bulls/steers and just raise a few, here's where we need a co-op.
P.J.
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Post by Olga on Apr 15, 2011 22:27:47 GMT -5
P.J., I think the OK Dexters association would be perfect for that. May be breeders could have an area where they can post about excess bull calves available?
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Post by cripple creek dexters on Apr 19, 2011 16:26:46 GMT -5
A co-op would be great! I usually am short steers too.
As for the pricing, in our region (rocky mountain) the going rate for grass finihsed beef is $5lb packaged and up. I look at the price of a T bone at the supermarket, and then look at the price of ground in the same meat case and take the average, that way I can tell people that buying from me not only supports small LOCAL farm family, but also much healthier and cost about the same as the super market! So far business has been good with repeat customers and new referals every year.
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Post by Olga on Apr 19, 2011 21:51:56 GMT -5
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Post by jneail on Apr 20, 2011 7:57:46 GMT -5
I bought some dexter burger yesterday from a nearby farm. It was 3.25 a lb frozen. Lots of other cuts were individually packaged, priced and frozen as well in a display freezer. I have no idea about the regulations in NY or elsewhere- sorry I can't contribute to that part of the discussion. Just thought I'd share that it's the first time I've had dexter- and both my husband and I agreed that it was way better than any grocery store ground beef we've ever had. With a noticeable difference in just burger, I can only imagine how much better some of the good cuts must be!
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Post by copperhead on Apr 22, 2011 22:52:34 GMT -5
jneail, we went to some friends house last week and they had huge steaks out to grill. they looked very good, nice and thick. We had porterhouse and rib eye, and I honestly couldn't believe how " tasteless" they were. He had seasoned them very well, but after several years of eating our own Dexter beef, the store bought was bland and kind of soft textured. We grass feed and really love the flavor and texture of our beef. I was really surprised at the difference.
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Post by ksroose on Feb 23, 2012 22:55:17 GMT -5
does it make sense to just sell at the current live weight prices?
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 24, 2012 7:55:31 GMT -5
Hi ksroose,
Does it make sense? It depends on what you are selling. Dexter steers and heifers usually don't grow into the size range as what the feedlot buyers are looking for to buy. If you are honest about what you are selling, you will not receive the "current live weight prices" that grade commercial cattle are bringing at the sale barn. If your animals have horns, you will receive even less for them because someone else will have to dehorn them, and that is more work for the buyer and more stress on the animal.
Trying to pass off young Dexter steers or heifers as something that they are not is very dishonest and the buyers will soon figure out what happened and who did it. If you're going to take Dexters to sell at the sale barn, be honest about what you are offering.
Patti
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Post by ksroose on Feb 25, 2012 9:38:21 GMT -5
To clarify, I'm not thinking about selling at a sale barn. I am meaning taking it to a locker for beef for someone. No surprises in what they are getting. Selling as good Dexter beef as the benefits of that. I am seeing the discussion about how much to charge the customer and some prices are pretty high as a specialty beef. I am wandering about weighing them on the way to locker and charging customer the same as the current live weight like they would buy a market beef at the sale barn. Then have them handle the choosing of cuts of meat and processing themselves. That is how we have bought beef for the local farmers. I am just wandering if Dexters should be charged higher than the current live weight prices or the keep it the same are regular beef, which I will probably get less money for.
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