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Post by Olga on Jun 26, 2013 11:08:14 GMT -5
At the AGM it was announced that ADCA has negotiated a price deal with UC Davis. In just a few weeks anyone will be able to identify themselves to the UC Davis as an ADCA member in order to take advantage of the reduced prices and have the option to report the results directly to the ADCA.
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Post by emgiger on Jun 26, 2013 11:56:34 GMT -5
Last week I submitted my first genotype and parent verification from UC Davis directly to the ADCA registrar. I noticed today that the results have been posted to the pedigree. The process was very simple. Kudos to the ADCA for negotiating with/approving this lab!
Eileen
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Post by mac on Jun 26, 2013 11:59:59 GMT -5
So, what's the procedure for using UCD? How much does it cost? Can anyone access the UCD data?
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Post by Olga on Jun 26, 2013 13:24:43 GMT -5
Eileen, I'm jealous! Lol. At the AGM we were told "not to do that" - until the official system was set up, until there was a "secret password" that all ADCA members could use to identify themselves to the UC Davis. We were told that there was "no way" the $5 fee and transfer of genotype through TA&M could be avoided for another 2 or 3 weeks! So I'm still waiting to send my samples and keep checking the ADCA website. They don't even have an announcement about the possibility of using UC Davis soon, good grief! You wouldn't be willing to share the "affiliation code", I'm sure everybody would appreciate? Mac, the preferred procedure for using UCD is online. You go to their website, set up an account, then you can start a case, by selecting what kind of animal you'd like to test and what tests you'd like. With your information, UCD website generates a test submission form that you can print and attach tail hairs to. You send it to the UCD and usually within a week you receive the results. As to the prices, I think they'll be identical those that Legacy gets at UCD ( Legacy website stating the prices). The results of the test belong to the person who submitted the tests. If you genotype an animal and would like for UCD to report that fact to the ADCA, the ADCA will receive confirmation that your animal's genotype is on file at their database. If you test for color, chondro, Pha and would like it to be reported to the ADCA, then the actual test results will be sent to the ADCA. |
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Post by Olga on Jun 26, 2013 13:34:33 GMT -5
Ok, I called UCD and they told me that they've decided not to use the "affiliation code" method. Once the breed is chosen as Dexter, the tests pricing should be reduced. I'm going to generate a test for one of mine and see if this method proves true.
Well, the genotype price is still $30 (Legacy is $25) but everything else is the same. But with no additional $5 for a transfer of genotype through TA&M, the total price is the same.
I think this still may be work in progress, because the test form didn't "ask" if I wanted the result reported to the ADCA. I think this is where the affiliation will come from. So I guess we'll just have to sit and wait till we are given the official version as to what to do.
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Post by emgiger on Jun 26, 2013 14:12:23 GMT -5
Oh goodness Olga, I hope I didn't cause any problems! Here is what I did........First, I didn't realize that we were not supposed to submit anything for a couple of weeks...OOPS! I have the majority of my herd genotyped at UC Davis. When the approval came through to use this lab, I logged onto my UC Davis account and requested the "parent verification" test for two animals that were previously genotyped. I was surprised when I was not charged a fee. After speaking to the lab, if you have your animals genotyped at UC Davis, the parent verification is no additional cost. I was pleasantly surprised! I received the results about a week later and forwarded them to the ADCA registrar. The results were not automatically forwarded to the registrar.
Something I am wondering about.......if you want to verify parentage to an animal whose genotype you do not own, will the lab permit that? When you request parent verification at UC Davis they automatically list the animals in your account as possible sires and dams. If the sire or dam is not in your account you have the opportunity to put one in manually, but you must have the case number, something only the owner of the genotype would have. Will the owner of a genotype need to give permission for parent verification? Just curious. I am wondering how they will address this. It will happen frequently when folks decide to AI or lease/borrow a bull that they do not own. I am sure all these issues will be addressed at some point. I am just thrilled the ADCA has approved this lab!
Eileen
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Post by Olga on Jun 26, 2013 17:13:11 GMT -5
No, no trouble, Eileen. I think there is just a delay in making this very happy announcement. May be not all the details are ironed out yet. From what I understand, once UCD knows that you are an ADCA member there will be an option to simply check a box if you want your animal's name to be put on a regularly sent out report of new genotypes on file from UCD to ADCA. There will be no waiting to get the papers in the mail, and no need to resend them from the owner to ADCA. The process will be more streamlined. I can't wait!
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Post by legendrockranch on Jun 26, 2013 21:38:35 GMT -5
Well I'm glad things are working out for you. I on the other hand have been told buy UCD to transfer genotypes from TAMU to UCD it would be $10.00 per animal and they weren't too sure about compatibility.
That is double the price of $5.00 to send genotypes from UCD to TAMU. Have you heard anything more about this?
Guess I'll be on the phone with them tomorrow.
Barb
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Post by jamshundred on Jun 26, 2013 23:10:43 GMT -5
Folks, the price isn't going to help much when you are going to have to pay the higher registration and transfer fees that were voted in.
Judy
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Post by Olga on Jun 27, 2013 1:30:30 GMT -5
Btw, ADCA decided to let breeders make their own choice. Both TA&M and UCD will be ADCA-approved labs.
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Post by ctownson on Jun 27, 2013 8:56:33 GMT -5
It is my understanding that final directions/information, etc. will be posted in the very near future on the ADCA web site. The addition of UCD as an approved lab is wonderful news for all Dexter owners!
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Post by lakeportfarms on Jun 27, 2013 12:50:24 GMT -5
Judy, could you let us know here how the genotype and test results transfer to the ADCA takes place with Legacy/UCDavis? Is that a request that we can make ourselves to UCDavis directly or do we have to notify you and you'll submit the request?
Thanks!
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Post by jamshundred on Jun 30, 2013 19:08:49 GMT -5
Hi Mike,
The genotypes should not need to be transferred. All ADCA should need are the case numbers for the genotypes. Everything is not quite complete so give it a week or so to iron out what is required by whom OK?
Judy
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Post by lakeportfarms on Jun 30, 2013 20:59:04 GMT -5
Judy, Mike is our bull...lol.. but I'm happy he makes an impression on you!  I will send you the genotype for both Mike and Duncan soon for inclusion into Legacy and UC Davis VGL, thanks for letting me know about that option and we'll sit tight until these things get worked out with the ADCA. Hans |
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Post by littlecowfl on Oct 31, 2016 8:39:11 GMT -5
Quick question. If my cow was genotyped by TAMU and I need to do parentage verification on a bull, do I need to transfer my cow's genotype? How do I do that?
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I will send you the genotype for both Mike and Duncan soon for inclusion into Legacy and UC Davis VGL, thanks for letting me know about that option and we'll sit tight until these things get worked out with the ADCA.