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Post by hollydzie on Feb 15, 2014 12:39:06 GMT -5
I was looking at pictures of Hazel's calf from a year ago. Then looking at the calf she had on Thursday. The calf in the first picture is Opal out of NSNF Xenos. The calf born Thursday is out of Mrald Waldo Woo. I am amazed at the difference in her 2 calves. Have any of you noticed such a difference when switching bulls?
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Post by jamboru on Feb 15, 2014 22:43:58 GMT -5
A few years ago our herd was drafted into two lines for a visiting group and that made the difference more conspicuous. That was more in height and colour rather than length of leg and depth of barrel. The cow looks like she has spectacle disease in the first photo. FranJ
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Post by legendrockranch on Feb 15, 2014 23:09:04 GMT -5
Fran, I'm sure Holy will chime in.
In the meantime just wanted to thank you. I had never heard of "spectacle disease" so for the first time I was able to use my "New Color Atlas of Diseases and Disorders of Cattle" book. There it was, here in the US we call it a copper deficiency (hypocucprosis, "pine").
Barb
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Post by hollydzie on Feb 15, 2014 23:09:57 GMT -5
In the first photo she was very copper deficient. With the help of a nutritionist she is a new girl. That however did not have any bearing on the length of the calf's legs. She came from a very leggy bull. Here is a picture of her before and after the mineral problem. You can even see the rust color on her legs in first picture, that is all gone and she is a sleek black girl now.
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Post by copperhead on Feb 16, 2014 22:51:06 GMT -5
Isn't the rust coloring a symptom of selenium deficienty ?
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Post by copperhead on Feb 16, 2014 22:51:43 GMT -5
Isn't the rust coloring a symptom of selenium deficienty ?
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Post by jamboru on Feb 17, 2014 3:49:42 GMT -5
Just an observation Holly, not a criticism. She looks to be a lovely cow with or without copper deficiency.
Copperhead, copper sulphate (used sparingly) will blacken the brown tones without treating selenium deficiency, but according to my mothers Google-ings, selenium helps copper become available to cells. FranJ
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Post by hollydzie on Feb 17, 2014 9:55:42 GMT -5
Oh Fran I did not take it as a criticism. I am happy to share my information. In Florida we are deficient in many things. I had mineral out in the form of a block and Purina wind and rain, but they would NOT touch it. I was lucky enough to have a cattle nutritionist from a local company help me. Their product is manufactured for our specific area and deficiencies. The cows love it and it has 20% protein to boot. I wish everyone was aware of the importance of proper mineral replacement. The product that we use is called PDQ 20 Selenium. The other very important things is that it is chelated, if it is not the animal basically just pees it out. The body can not use it, if it is not chelated. We saw a dramatic difference in her in just a few short months. I put it out every day with their feed because if it gets wet if dissolves. Extremely good stuff....
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