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Post by jamshundred on Mar 18, 2014 20:28:20 GMT -5
Excuse me Carol K. Of what should they take note? I AM a protector and preserver of TRADITIONAL DEXTER CATTLE. In the past YOU have been critical of me for NOT mentioning that there can be questionable tempers in traditional bulls.LOL! How hypocritical of YOU. The people who have been around for a while will recognize this as the usual "gang bang".
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Post by jamshundred on Mar 18, 2014 20:46:10 GMT -5
Carol K,
I am interested to know ALL the breeders who have had LARGE calves born off the Saltaire Platinum bloodlines. Since you know of a number of them, would you name them for me?
Judy
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Post by jamshundred on Mar 18, 2014 21:03:01 GMT -5
Hmmmm. Well Carol, you brought it up and now questionable temper in Woodmagic bulls is in the public domain. I wonder if you have also heard that it is supposedly common knowledge in England that there were Woodmagic bulls that had temperament issues? And I wonder if you know about some offspring born AI in the US put down because owners were not happy with their personalities? Why didn't YOU give the name of that Woodmagic bull?
Judy
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Post by cddexter on Mar 18, 2014 21:04:40 GMT -5
Hi Judy, I had nothing to do with registering Fermoy, don't know where you get the five year bit because Fermoy was born in '91 and she was registered in '93. Did you fall off your hobby horse again and hurt your head? Cheers, c.
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Post by marion on Mar 18, 2014 21:07:21 GMT -5
I find it real interesting that Carol K was sent the original post. Judy Hello Judy. You have removed Carol K's name from your original post. It was in your original, addressed to Carol K, just before "POUND SAND"
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Post by jamshundred on Mar 18, 2014 21:16:16 GMT -5
Oh, so sorry. It was not intentional. . .must have been when the quote box was added. Just in case there is any doubt by those reading this thread, it WAS Carol K who I told to POUND SAND. That sentiment has not changed.
Carol D. Amazing that the best you can do is suggest I am writing from the back of my hobby horse. Still, not a single one of the "gang" can put on paper a single, actual, character failure of mine. ( Pat on the back for me).
I was told that you were involved with the failed registry and cross-breeding program of the owner of the Wee Gaelic herd, and that when you were going to purchase his animals to take them to Canada they were all registered at the same time and that it was YOU who was behind it. True or not? The registration numbers of the herd at that time were certainly consecutive in a huge batch. I said NOTHING about Mrs. Fermoy and 1991 that I recall?
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Post by cddexter on Mar 18, 2014 21:27:17 GMT -5
"Carol D - When I put a post on this board inquiring of you as to why you had made a negative comment about Ms. Fermoy being registered at the age of 5 ( which you handled in the first place), " Fermoy was registered in the 1993 ADCA Herd Book, page 73 as having been born October 9th, 1991. Charles Pacheco, the owner, did the registrations, and sold her to Fred Chesterley. I wasn't involved at all. Two errors in one sentence. I won't bother with the rest. Jack. Cheers, c. PS, so who are the two bulls? ?? Character failure? Let's try 'everyone is out of step but me', move on to failure to report accurately, add selective reasoning, and close with unwillingness to believe anyone's story but your own.
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Post by outofthebox on Mar 18, 2014 21:34:26 GMT -5
Outofthebox. If you told me something in a personal conversation I would not run and post it on the internet. I have written that ANYONE who is concerned that a traditional bull born in PA ( and died there as well) might be in their five line pedigree ( which we are told is all that is needed to get a mongrel mutt from crossbred to purebred again), they need only write and ask me and I will tell them. That is the RIGHT way to do it. Awwwww Judy it wasnt me You and I have had some corro back and forth and I do truly respect, and admire all you have and are doing in the world of the Dexter. You have my 100% support
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Post by jamshundred on Mar 18, 2014 21:37:13 GMT -5
Question for the old "gang" who have not had such a wonderful opportunity to get their juices flowing in ages! Especially to you Carol K since your inquisitive nature inquired. ( Or should that be spelled inquisition?). I am sitting on the hobby horse looking up the definition of hypocrisy just to be sure I am right on this one.
The comments in the copied post below have been on the "bull" thread since February 23. 23 days now. Not a single person who asked me for the identity of two bulls in PA have asked Carol Davidson the identity of any bull mentioned below. (And you really didn't think it was about anything and everything but two bulls in PA? Really? Perhaps the newer folks but I promise you the old-timers knew better).
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Post by wagradexters on Mar 19, 2014 0:15:58 GMT -5
For the benefit of those readers who may be confused by the generalistions being implied by Jamshundred previously, we have bred many bulls with predominantly Woodmagic breeding, including many commercial, not only those bulls registered as studstock on the DCAI (Australia) database. To my knowledge, none that we bred have developed a bad attitude, and I am sure we would have heard if they had.
I am not suggesting that none ever would, only suggesting that gross generalisation is grossly prejudicial.
We have a Hedgehog 3rd son here at the moment, in his 14th year. He is from a half-Wm cow. If all Woodmagic bulls were going to develop a bad attitude, you would think he should have done it by now.
Years ago, for about ten years we owned an old bull by Trillium Cluny from Wm Mourning Dove 2nd. He had perfect manners. A classier gentleman was never bred (...to my knowledge).
Margaret
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Post by midhilldexters on Mar 19, 2014 6:59:11 GMT -5
Usual responses, lots of posts to lay blame on others, point fingers at others, blow ones own trumpet and generally forget the original issue. Same old same old. By the way, your original post was timed at 1.14 and your edit at 2.17 hardly a few minutes. Also, you don't have to be logged in to read posts and copy them.
Carol K
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Post by cddexter on Mar 19, 2014 7:22:53 GMT -5
Jeez, Carol, your posts are starting to sound like mine. Careful...
Speaking of Woodmagic and temperament, I've never heard of bad temperament in woodmagic, so don't know what Judy's on about in England. I had ONE here who turned in his old age, all in about two hours. I've heard of this happening, hadn't seen it, don't think it had anything to do with the line and everything to do with age. I only brought it up to counteract Judy, and since she can't leave temperament alone and it's always lucifer or outlaw, figured I'd give her some of her own medicine, by extrapolating one incident into a bloodline issue.
cheers, c.
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Post by dexterlady on Mar 19, 2014 23:22:01 GMT -5
OK Genebo, I for one do not know why Lucifer was destroyed.....Let me in on the secret....Thanks ....DJ
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Post by ssimons on Mar 20, 2014 0:42:32 GMT -5
I don't know the story either,but having a name like 'Lucifer' has got to get inside a critter's head. Just think how people would act around an animal with that name. No ear scratches or back scratches for him
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Post by cddexter on Mar 20, 2014 7:30:35 GMT -5
have to leave for work or I'll be late. catch this up when I get home. I have FIRST hand experience, and direct knowledge. This is more helpful that third hand stories where errors creep in. Most don't get it right. cheers, c.
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