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Post by ctownson on Aug 12, 2009 3:54:06 GMT -5
We got our first test results back from Igenity last night and have updated our web site accordingly. Very impressed with Igenity's communication and customer service! Here is a link to all of our test results: www.beavertreefarm.com/dexter_cattlecharles beavertree farm
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Post by Clive on Aug 12, 2009 10:22:09 GMT -5
As suggested, I asked Igenity for a price for testing in the UK and they replied that it is available but haven't come up with a price yet.
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Post by ctownson on Aug 12, 2009 17:59:14 GMT -5
Since the sample is a hair sample, would it be possible to send to their lab here in the U.S.? A number of samples will fit in a standard envelope or a manilla envelope. Your results can be delivered back to you electronically. Is there something that prohibits tail hairs being sent internationally?
charles
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Post by Clive on Aug 14, 2009 1:55:58 GMT -5
I emailed Igenity US and the UK branch as well. The US branch did not reply so I assume they passed it on to the UK company. I'll wait and see what fees they come up with, but as usual in the UK, I forecast it will be twice what you are paying. I don't understand why, we went to New York some years ago and even in a big city like that, to us, prices were low but the quality high. "Rip-Off Britain" is what we call it over here. PHA testing in the UK may end up being restricted mainly to bulls or those that request it when buying an animal. Our overall costs are high.
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Post by Clive on Aug 16, 2009 1:53:33 GMT -5
That's a very kind offer Gene, thank you. I'll see what the UK people come up with first and take it from there. I'd probably only test bulls though because almost everything here goes for beef and any cows that miss a calving without me being fairly sure why that has happened, are culled or retired. I have a bull that is being used on other herds now, and he will certainly be tested when it is available, whatever the cost.
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Post by cddexter on Aug 18, 2009 5:36:14 GMT -5
Clive, it's no big deal to send hair. All you need over and above the samples and forms is the U.S. Vector Import Permit, which confirms the destination has the facilities and official approval to dispose of the 'bits' (in this case hair) in an approved fashion --uusually incinerator. The permit is site specific, so it would have to come from Igenity with their info on it. Simply ask. regards, c.
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Post by kansasdexters on Aug 18, 2009 9:17:09 GMT -5
Hi Clive, Igenity currently has a "Special Offer" on genetic abnormality testing. The coupon price for PHA testing is $20 per sample with a minimum of 25 samples. Samples can be hair, blood, or semen. The regular price for this test is $26 per sample, so the coupon price represents a $6 per sample discount. The coupon is only valid for orders containing a minimum of 25 samples and must be completed in its entirety to receive the discount (there is a brief survey on the coupon). The order must be postmarked by September 15, 2009. One coupon per customer/ranch. The coupon can be printed off from the Igenity website: www.igenity.comIf there are other Dexter breeders in the U.K. that would also like to have their cattle tested for PHA, perhaps a group of you could pool samples and take advantage of this special offer. Patti
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Post by Clive on Aug 18, 2009 15:14:34 GMT -5
I will ask and see if others want to test, it is a good price but still no response from the UK division of Merial yet; I will chase them soon. I have no idea at all what people are doingover here, or what the society has decided. There seems to be a rumour that bulls will be tested as a start, presumably voluntary. We will certainly test our bulls. I really appreciate your advice. Thanks.
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Post by cddexter on Aug 19, 2009 14:03:33 GMT -5
Clive, do I remember you saying something about Duncan was going to send out an official blurb shortly--some time ago. Did it ever happen? regards, c.
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Post by Clive on Aug 20, 2009 11:10:17 GMT -5
I'm not a member of the UK society because of the cost of registering bulls, which because of the way I was breeding, would amount to £750-1000 per annum so I don't know what Duncan has sent out. I do my own thing, run my own low-cost herd book (along with other herds) and we will arrange our own testing. We are to Dexterdom what e-Bay is to retail ;D. Hardly anyone I know over my way is a member. I've only sold dexters to one member in two years!
I now have my first quotation for PHA testing from a European firm. The quote is 55 Euro which makes it about 3 or 4 times the price you are paying! Waiting for the other quote still from Merial but I bet it'll be similar. That's why, as I may have indicated before, you can expect "apathy" from the UK because of the costs over here.
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