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Post by lakeportfarms on Oct 9, 2012 19:01:22 GMT -5
Ok, I'll post a few and look for some guesses...I won't state their status for now. Mature cow: It took a test to confirm.  Heifer calf @ 4 months: It took a test to tell us, but as she grew it became more obvious.  Bull calf @ 6 months: We guessed correctly at about 2 months old, confirmed by the test.  Bull calf @1-1/2 months: We guessed correctly within the first week, confirmed by the test.  |
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Post by Olga on Oct 9, 2012 19:56:34 GMT -5
My guess: non-carrier followed by 3 carriers.
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Post by cddexter on Oct 9, 2012 20:45:30 GMT -5
Well, I'll start with the cow. nothing ventured, no chance to make a fool of myself. ;D
The cow screams dwarf at me. No neck to speak of, short face, and look at the front legs: I want to unscrew them and move them forward at least 4 inches. Also, the brisket is very square.
The hock curve is quite tight, too. And, even though I don't know the height of the animal, I'll bet there's barely 4 inches of straight cannon bone between the joints. Beryl Ruthrford always said she used the underneath solhouette as her guide: (bottom of stomach, front and back legs, and the ground are the four sides). Square was a nondwarf, rectangle was a dwarf. This cow has a very decided long, thin rectangle. c.
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Post by dexterfarm on Oct 9, 2012 21:08:30 GMT -5
1 and 4 chondro
3 is not
not sure on 2 but I am going to guess chondro
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Post by lakeportfarms on Oct 10, 2012 4:45:01 GMT -5
Ok, I'll provide one additional bit of information on number 1, before I provide the answer... she is 40.5 inches at the rear hip and 14 years old in that photo. When I get three more responses I'll provide the answer.
Since my wife and I found #4 so obvious and he doesn't seem to be fooling anybody here either, yes, he is a carrier.
I'll wait a bit for 2 and 3. Number 2 has sold and I don't have an updated photo, 3 is still at our farm and we're considering keeping him and though it's 35 degrees and raining right now I'll try to get another photo of him that is more recent.
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Post by hollydzie on Oct 10, 2012 6:56:21 GMT -5
Cow~carrier
calf ~ non
bull~non
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Post by hollydzie on Oct 10, 2012 7:14:07 GMT -5
Here are 3 more animals for you to guess on. All 3 have there status confirmed by DNA. Tell me what you think Attachments:
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Post by hollydzie on Oct 10, 2012 7:16:04 GMT -5
Opps here is the 3rd animal Attachments:
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Post by lakeportfarms on Oct 10, 2012 7:49:12 GMT -5
I would say yes on the cow
No on her calf
No on the bull in the separate photo
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Post by cowgrl on Oct 10, 2012 9:32:41 GMT -5
My turn My turn.... ;D This is Issac Storm, dam is a chondro carrier, sire is not. Little story on him...He was born 4 weeks early as we believe the blessing of Tropical Storm Issac on our parched Missouri landscape may have stimulated his dam into labor. He is 5 weeks old and in the one picture he has a red pasture mate next to him, she was born a week later than him full term. We think non-carrier. Attachments:
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Post by cowgrl on Oct 10, 2012 9:33:14 GMT -5
Issac with red pasture mate. Attachments:
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Post by Olga on Oct 10, 2012 11:15:23 GMT -5
Just guessing, lol.
Hollydzie: cow and calf are carriers, the bull/steer in separate pic is non-carrier.
Cowgrl: non-carrier preemie.
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Post by cddexter on Oct 10, 2012 16:15:42 GMT -5
come on guys, we need to say why....what traits make you think one way or the other. Only way for others to learn, please. I agree on dwarf, dwarf and non. I think, based on the hock curve, that Isaac is a carrier. Hard to tell, tho. Maybe I should use the  glyph or I could end up wearing the  glyph ;D cheers, c. |
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Post by Olga on Oct 10, 2012 17:11:52 GMT -5
Hollydzie: logic on the cow with calf picture: the length of rear leg is short compared to the depth of body, I can see how low her udder is compared to leg (just not enough leg to give more room below udder), and the stance is telling too; the carrier stance is really noticeable on the calf, you can see right away that there's just something not quite right about the angles in the rear legs of the calf - due to shorter bones. Logic on the steer: his depth of body makes him look rectangular - but so does the length of body, which is the clue that he is a non-carrier.
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Post by wvdexters on Oct 10, 2012 18:14:57 GMT -5
 Oh my!!!! I have been on vacation and talk about having to play catch-up. You guys have passed me by. I have a few ideas but let me read and study these threads and get all caught up. Then I'll be in on the game.
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glyph or I could end up wearing the 
glyph ;D
Oh my!!!! I have been on vacation and talk about having to play catch-up. You guys have passed me by. I have a few ideas but let me read and study these threads and get all caught up. Then I'll be in on the game.