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Post by dexterfarm on Jul 12, 2014 10:17:27 GMT -5
maybe number 1 but I would guess non carrier on all 3
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Post by dexterfarm on Jul 12, 2014 10:22:38 GMT -5
wow lucy has a nice set of horns on her. similar shape to the other comparison pictures but I think she has all of them beat in the size dept.
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Post by kansasdexters on Jul 12, 2014 10:38:49 GMT -5
Cow #1 is Bohls Diamond, she is 12 years old and is a non-carrier of Chondro. Here's another photo:  Cow #2 is Wakarusa OB Marva, she is 5 years old and is a non-carrier of Chondro. Here's another photo:  Cow #3 is Wakarusa Nutmeg Cluny, she is 8 years old and is a Chondro-carrier. Here's another photo, her heifer calf in this photo also tested as a Chondro-carrier:  |
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Post by kansasdexters on Jul 13, 2014 9:59:06 GMT -5
Let's look at some calves, and see if you can tell which ones are chondro-carriers and which ones are non-carriers: Bull Calf #1, one-month old:  Same bull calf (now a steer), at 12-months old:  Bull Calf #2, one-month old:  Same bull calf, at 22-months old:  Heifer Calf #1, 7-months old:  Heifer Calf #2, 7-months old:  Patti |
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Post by Olga on Jul 13, 2014 10:48:10 GMT -5
Neg, pos, pos, neg. Telltale sign in those is the head.
P.S.: too late for claims on Cow#3 but what tipped me off was something in the rear end: location and angles between hook, pin, and stifle.
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Post by ssrdex on Jul 13, 2014 11:16:22 GMT -5
I'm glad to scroll down through the pics making my guesses, and then get affirmed by Olga! I don't have any smatrt angle/slant/bone comments though...just that the 2nd & 3rd look no necked & tightly put together. That & I wanna just pick up bull #2 & squeeze him. Patti, can you stuff him in a manilla & ship him west?
Marion, could you explain why "definitely chondro" on #3?
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Post by kansasdexters on Jul 13, 2014 11:54:51 GMT -5
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Post by Olga on Jul 13, 2014 14:04:53 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting! For what it's worth, I didn't see pic of bull calf #2 at 22 months, and he looks like a negative in that one. Thanks for good quiz subjects, Patti! Love a challenge.
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Post by kansasdexters on Jul 13, 2014 21:38:33 GMT -5
Okay, I added a current photo of bull calf #1. He is considerably smaller than his herd mates, and definitely appears short-legged and round now.
Patti
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Post by zephyrhillsusan on Jul 24, 2014 16:59:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers, Genebo, it just goes to show that the only way to be positive (pun intended) is to test!  But it's fun to play the game and learn at the same time. |
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Post by dollarlessbill on Jul 24, 2014 17:51:07 GMT -5
Pati , had a oler dexter cow tha was always refered to as a Kerry type Dexter, and why, cause she had big horns that went out and up , and she was like 46" tall. "Sonethrow Milly Brooks" ADCA 4696 and this ol cow could understand the English language better than any cow I ever talked to.
Bill
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Post by kansasdexters on Jul 24, 2014 18:53:32 GMT -5
Bill, One photo is worth a thousand words. Here is my purebred registered Kerry cow, Heamour NEW Seana (now owned by Michael Connely). I believe that some of the very best Dexter cattle have Kerry cattle like this sweet cow, way back in their ancestry somewhere:  Patti |
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Post by dollarlessbill on Jul 24, 2014 22:08:00 GMT -5
the Kerry I had was the best cow in daylite hours , never a problem easy to work with, BUT beware atter dark she would tri to run u over. I never did figure that one out??? She was of the Kelmschot bloodlines. How did u aquire your Kerry? I tried to buy more and nun of the Kerry breeders would even consider sell n a KErrythey act like u have be b in a elite group of some kind to own a Kerry and mear phesants like myself did not qualify? MY wife said did eye ever figure it wuz my abealItee not to be normale and type wright?  ?? I told her I cant help they did not learn 2 read at skool, Bill |
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Post by dollarlessbill on Jul 24, 2014 22:19:39 GMT -5
To all involved in this thread I think the involvement with the pics and everone given the opertuneeyetee to give their opinion on what they c is great. this type of partiseyepayshuon could be very useful fer several things IMO in the future of a better breed.
Say in every cow/calf or what ever going up fer reg. that a pic wuz posted and everone had the opertuneitea to giv their opinuion? Yea I know some wood b made mad but others it might help wreckinnize a less deezirubeal trait they did not sea.?
I wuz impressed with what all youns seed in the pics that wuz posted..
Just a pass n thought ,,,,,I kant stay in the box like eye am post 2
Bill
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Post by kansasdexters on Jul 24, 2014 22:50:03 GMT -5
Bill,
We acquired most of our Kerry cattle from Our Lady of the Rock on Shaw Island in Washingston State. We purchased one bred cow, North Plain Siobhan, from a dairy in New York and she had Heamour NEW Seana, our first Kerry heifer. It took us almost a year to assemble the herd.
We currently own six Kerry females and a Kerry bull, also have semen for three more registered Kerry bulls, including Kelmscott's Seamus and Kelmscott Guiness. We've had Kerry cattle since 2007, and it's been a valuable learning experience. They are different from Dexter cattle, yet it's obvious to me that the two breeds are related. We have Mona Bashful Brenna, LTR Moya, Wakarusa LTRK Keva, Wakarusa LTRK Karma, Wakarusa WRS Bree, Wakarusa WRS Moona, and Wakarusa LTRK Shea currently in our herd. Each one is a unique individual, they are very special cattle.
Patti
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But it's fun to play the game and learn at the same time.
