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Post by carragheendexters on Feb 5, 2016 6:36:45 GMT -5
Carol, it wasn't the size that I was meaning, if anything I think it is too low because she is a chondro carrier and it would be nice if it was at least level with her hocks What I was meaning is how high it is attached, right up high into her abdomen, and you can see how wide it is, right against her flanks and the full width between her hind legs. That is what I would love to see more Dexter's udders like, instead of something just stuck to their belly like a triangle hanging down, wider at the bottom than the top.
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 5, 2016 8:12:13 GMT -5
Louise, These are photos of Oleo Night, ADCA No. 14018, DOB: April 29, 2003, at freshening:
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 5, 2016 9:02:12 GMT -5
Here's another one, and she is a chondro-carrier, Gracious Muirstead, ADCA No. 016041, DOB: March 25, 2004:
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 5, 2016 9:18:39 GMT -5
Here is another cow from the La Mancha Herd, Malahide County, Ireland - this is La Mancha Love Lost, from Year 1903. Compare the above Dexter cow to a 6-year old, prize-winning purebred Kerry cow in England in 1948:
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 5, 2016 9:30:07 GMT -5
Here's a historical Dexter bull, Limelight: Here's a "modern" Dexter bull, O'Bannon's Brogan, ADCA No. 016268, DOB: June 28, 2004, Chondro Non-carrier:
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Post by zephyrhillsusan on Feb 5, 2016 10:58:06 GMT -5
The angle is a bit off on the photo of Country Girl on the previous page compared to Sunbeam, but I personally prefer Country Girl's attachment. Her udder looks more level compared to Sunbeam's; the slope toward the back makes me think her rear attachment might not be what it could be. I can say that because no one is left alive to get their feelings hurt.
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Post by legendrockranch on Feb 5, 2016 11:59:39 GMT -5
I love the picture comparison between the Dexter La Mancha Love Lost and the 6 year old Kerry cow. Both have very similar looks and both have that nice femininity to them.
Barb
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 5, 2016 12:30:13 GMT -5
Zephyrhill (Susan), I believe this is a rear view of Kingswood Country Girl's udder, photo taken in 1910, Country Girl is on the left and one of her daughters is on the right (closest to the man):
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Post by hoperefuge on Feb 5, 2016 13:03:51 GMT -5
Such lovely udders! (sigh) It just makes me wish there were more breeders today paying attention & breeding for udders like this. And totally off topic, but kansasdexters do you know WHAT is around those cows' polls...and WHY?! (Love Lost & the Kerry) It looks like a lace "headband". Kim
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 5, 2016 13:38:33 GMT -5
hoperefuge (Kim) - They are wearing their rosettes in their photos, indicating that they are prize-winning cows. The British do this, not sure about the Australians. Louise or Margaret, care to comment on this tradition?
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Post by zephyrhillsusan on Feb 5, 2016 14:50:31 GMT -5
kansasdexters , her daughter certainly inherited her high rear attachment. Thanks for sharing these photos! And yes, hoperefuge, if Dexters are a dual purpose breed, we do need to pay attention to udders!
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Post by hoperefuge on Feb 5, 2016 15:41:57 GMT -5
hoperefuge (Kim) - They are wearing their rosettes in their photos, indicating that they are prize-winning cows. The British do this, not sure about the Australians. Louise or Margaret, care to comment on this tradition? That is so neat. I love it! Kim
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Post by cddexter on Feb 6, 2016 10:41:02 GMT -5
Here's a small haha on me...
At the AU Dexter Congress in 2002, Bill (can't rmemeber his last name, can't look it up) the Holstein evaluator who worked with the Dexter assn in AU to create a classification system, spoke on classification. He had early pics of Dexters and Kerries in AU to show the difference. He had the pics up for a few seconds before he started to talk about them, and when he put up the Kerry pics, I thought, "oh, no, where'd he get a photo of Bedford Black Rose?" His pics looked just like the cows in my fields at home. Now, since the Bedfords were mostly Grinstead and her animals came from foundation animals or foundation herds and were all dwarf as purchased, it only makes sense that my non-dwarf girls would resemble old Kerry lines. For me, it was a pretty strong argument for believing that a lot of very early Dexters truly wee simply dwarf kerries, which is something long recognized by not always admitted to.
Cheers, c.
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Post by sunrisedexters on Feb 7, 2016 7:59:28 GMT -5
I'm new to dexters and cattle in general, and have been looking to purchase some this spring for milking and meat for my family. I've been looking at a lot of photos, and it seems like most of them look so much different from the photos that are posted here. Most of them are red and look kind of big. I'm 5 feet tall and want the dexter because I heard it was a small breed and easy to handle . I went to the american dexter cattle association website with dexters for sale, and there are only a couple that I see that look like these here. I've also looked at craigslist a lot, and found some that looks good but hasn't been registered yet? I really like the look of these old Dexters, but I probably would like to have registered if possible and it doesn't seem like there are many that look like these here.
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Post by kansasdexters on Feb 7, 2016 8:23:14 GMT -5
sunrisedexters - The Dexter breed has a lot to offer and is very adaptable to many climates and needs because it has a diverse gene pool. There are three solid colors that are accepted by the breed: black, red, and dun. There are Chondro-carrier (aka "shorties", "Short-legged", dwarf) and Chondro non-carrriers (aka "non-short", "true short", "long-legged", etc.) and both are accepted within the breed. There are horned and there are polled, and both are accepted in the breed. There are also a wide range of breeder preferences and these are reflected in the Dexter breed that we see today.
Some Dexter breeders focus their breeding program on traditional, dual-purpose type, and that is where you will find Dexters that are similar to the photos that I've posted. Most of my own herd is dual-purpose type, small, black, and horned. That is my personal preference, and that is what I have selected for and bred over the past 11 years. All of my herd is registered with the American Dexter Cattle Association (ADCA), parentage qualified, DNA tested for production traits (beef and milk), and for Chondrodysplasia, PHA, and color type. I have over 50 registered Dexters in my herd. So if you want cattle that are similar to the photos, they are available. We ship all over the United States.
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